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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqU9lmFztOU
At
46:56, a hot young California Bab[e] talks sexy about the nervous system.
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 6:24 PM
To: Bryan Hunt; Scott Vigil II
Subject: 14. Limbic System
Really interesting!
Non-optimal pathway from Amigdala
to Hypothalimus tells you about embryonic development
and sometimes evolutionary development.
Stria-terminalus
At 36:25, "Totally nutty inefficient
going out through left field projections."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAOnSbDSaOw
Segment goes to 42:00.
"Evolution is not an inventor. It is
just a tinkerer."
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 11:12 AM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: NOVA scienceNOW w/ Neil deGrasse
Tyson: How smart are animals?
Susan,
Perhaps you will enjoy this.
Tyson is a highly placed Astro-Physicist.
If you like science, you'll like this. If you
like cute little doggies, you'll go crazy over it.
One interesting thing... my Chow mix had
moments where he was as ferocious as the wolves they showed. But, he still was
gentle with me and my family.
Scott
Scott 3/26/14:
For a short time, Bryan’s wife entered the discussion.
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:27 PM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: Anthrax Investigation
Hey Bryan,
Go to the
twenty-two minute and fifty-five second point and check out the signage on the
machine. Also, see the 24:25 point in the video.
Scott
Scott 3/26/14:
This show contained a machine built by Beckman-Coulter, the company that made
the diagnostics machines Bryan and I were working on.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Hunt
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:07 PM
To: Scott Vigil
Subject: Re: Anthrax Investigation
Awesome - a Biomek! Those things are very versatile. Perhaps one of Beckmans most popular products.
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:33 PM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: RE: Anthrax Investigation
I thought you would like it. I also sent it
to some of the other guys.
Toni was impressed ;^)
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Hunt
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 9:44 AM
To: Scott Vigil
Subject: Re: Anthrax Investigation
Here is what Bob Burger said about it (he
worked on Biomek)
Neat! I remember that we sold some Biomek FX system to do anthrax testing over a decade ago.
This video shows the NXp, which came later.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:11 AM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: RE: Anthrax Investigation
Nice.
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:36 PM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: Francis Bacon, The Advancement of
Learning, 1605
It would disgrace
us now that the wide spaces of the material globe. the
lands and seas. have been broached and explored. if the limits of the intellectual globe should be set by the
narrow discoveries of the ancients.
Francis Bacon, The Advancement of Learning, 1605
Cal Berkeley,
Cognitive Science 103, Lecture 10, http://youtu.be/dPMYCTMQSOs, 21:20.
From: Bryan Hunt
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:59 PM
To: Scott Vigil
Subject: Re: More than 4,000 Years
Darwin and
Lyell didn't know very much about the complexity of life like we know now.
No way it happened in 4,000 years, or trillions
of years.
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:19 PM,
Scott Vigil wrote:
Evidently, it was Charles Lyell who convinced
Darwin that there had been enough time (longer than 4,000 years) for evolution
to occur.
Lyell was a lawyer who studied geological
formations in his spare time. I guess this realization was contrary to Lyell’s
wishes. I think a lot of people want their nice neat concept of God and our
origins to remain in place.
http://youtu.be/vHlrk6cNcdQ,
55:00.
From: Bryan Hunt
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 9:31 AM
To: Scott Vigil
Subject: Re: More than 4,000 Years
Do you work
for Satan man? Ugh, very busy this week but I will try to find time
to answer this email. John Lennox has a great book (several great books
actually) that covers Genesis and time thing from various perspectives. I
just started reading it. I am also reading his book "Gunning for
God".
My take on all this is that we don't understand it all and when we do then it
will be clear. I know that is not a satisfying answer for you but there
really are a lot of reasons to believe the Bible.
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 10:11 AM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: RE: More than 4,000 Years
“Do you work for Satan man?” I’m
laughing. That must mean the answer is, “yes”.
But… I don’t believe in him and I’m not getting a
paycheck. So, it’s not working out too well so far ;^)
From: Bryan Hunt
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 2:36 PM
To: Scott Vigil
Subject: Re: Molecular Genetics II
Dawkins own
followers were put out by his lack of historical knowledge and making up of
information in his book "The God Delusion". Lennox covers this
with verifiable historic facts in "Gunning for God". Hawkins
went off the deep end with his claims that there is no God near the end but
before that he believed there was a creator. Lennox also wrote an
excellent book about this.
The eyewitness testimony is pretty well documented. Of course the Bible
itself documents this - ref. the Gospel of Luke which was written as a
historical account and documents eyewitness testimony. This Gospel lines
up with other historical writings from the time so it believed to be accurate.
Evidence That Demands a Verdict is an
excellent reference for learning more about the eyewitness testimony.
Scott
3/26/14: I read some of this work by Josh McDowell as a late teenager. It was
pretty compelling stuff. But when I saw McDowell at the Crystal Cathedral in 2011, he
seemed pretty contrite. I don’t recall him talking about any evidence that
demanded a verdict at the time.
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 2:48 PM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: Evolution source
Thanks, I’ll look into the info.
I’m not worried about Dawkins. He
is a person—not the subject, nor is he my main source. Take a look at the USC
lecture series for a thorough coverage of what we know and don’t know about
evolution. I can look it up again if you can’t find it.
I think it’s impossible to
disprove God.
And here’s the thing that science
hasn’t really broached yet. Why do we need consciousness at all? Automatons can
function nicely. Why does my body have to have a me?
If all I am is a machine, why do I know I exist and am asking this very
question about myself.
There is fascinating research
into this area. But neither science nor religion adequately
address this for me.
“To serve God” would be the best
Christian answer. But I don’t think God needs us. And, I think we just made him
up. If that’s true, we are HIS creator and he will die with us.
On the other hand, I don’t have
any kind of a better answer then that (that is, to serve God).
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 2:55 PM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: Consciousness
The Cogsci
102 series did a great job of framing the problem of consciousness. It was
super fascinating.
But, one possibility (and you’ll
like this) is that we don’t have sufficient intelligence to understand the
answer.
From: Scott Vigil
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: RE: Consciousness
It’s not to say that we don’t
know anything. We do know SOME things. Just knowing the questions goes a long
way. I don’t have anyone I can discuss this material with.
But that’s Ok,
I’m going on to Cog Sci 103.
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 3:03 PM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: RE: Consciousness
Almost as interesting as the
answer is the history of what has been believed about consciousness and how we
got to the present state of understanding. Of course, people of religious
persuasion have had a lot to say in this conversation.
From: Bryan Hunt
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 3:54 PM
To: Scott Vigil
Subject: Re: Consciousness
Have you
ever seen the Kung Fu episode where he tries to snatch the pebble from his
masters hand and if he can then he is ready to leave the temple?
You are like that for me. You are a hard one to convince and I kind
of like that. It's like I can almost hear God saying, "if you can convince Scott, then you are ready to venture out
to help others see the truth". :)
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 4:19 PM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: RE: Consciousness
You’re funny
:^)
I was just telling the guys about
a guy I threatened at the Tango venue with some football tactics.
On another subject, we’re dealing
with trickiness due to extremely limited options. There are very very few space hardened processors.
From: Bryan Hunt
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 3:49 PM
To: Scott Vigil
Subject: Re: Evolution source
God said he
made us in His image and He is perfectly good. We have a conscious to guide
us and I think the "holy spirit" is guidance information that God
periodically puts into our consciousness mechanism to guide us. We all
have a core version, I think, but we also all get tweaks. I also think we
communicate wirelessly with God, why not? So our soul is probably stored
physically somewhere else which is why Jesus tells us not to worry about our
body.
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 4:36 PM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: RE: Evolution source - a
Descartes thought there was this
particular lobe near the center of the brain that acted like an antenna.
So, the soul was thought to
interact with the brain through this lobe. As recently as a few months ago I
spoke to a young Afghanistan vet who thought this was true.
There are problems with the
model, and I can’t recall what they are. One is the level that our personality
is so closely linked with particular structures and therefore particular genes.
When the structures go bad, the behavior and personality goes bad.
If our soul is disconnected from
our memories and personality, one has to ask, “What is it… if anything?”
‘fascinating
coverage of this in Cog Sci 102. I’m not sure I can
find the actual lecture though. It was about 25 lectures total.
One argument against our brain
talking with a soul is that it would break conservation of energy. This was
recognized very early. ‘not sure by whom.
From: Bryan Hunt
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 3:51 PM
To: Scott Vigil
Subject: Re: Consciousness
I believe we
don't have sufficient intelligence! Why would we?
Besides, God tells us we don't in Issiah.
It's all there in the Bible man, I am telling you. Just trust.
From: Scott Vigil
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 4:40 PM
To: Bryan Hunt
Subject: RE: Consciousness - b
Actually, it’s not all in the
bible. Descarte’s thinking is an example that is not
in the bible. And of course, there has been much additional thinking on this
since Descartes.
“Trust”…
wonderful words of a man of faith.
But one cannot be a scientist and
pursue knowledge that way. Interesting lecture on how individual scientist’s
progress reached an end when they reached an impasse and gave the rest to God.
One physicist remarked on Newton,
how he could have gone much further into mechanics. But he just stopped and
left the rest up to God.
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